Since the Molok has the ability to fit both Doomsday's and Generators of both races those are going to be Massive in wasted m3 space for unpackaged for refitting on the fly. You are talking an extra 10000 m3 or 1/10th of the Moloks entire Fleet Hangar being used for these two modules alone for just one type of race. Let's also not forget the m3 of Capital Nos, Neuts, Capital props, various non racial Doomsday types as well as every other various refit you'll need. Instead of giving the Molok some stupid gimmicky corpse bay half the damn thing and double the Fleet Hangar so we can use the ships versatility. I shouldn't have to fandangle and jumble around a limited fleet hangar for a ship that costs 3x the amount of a regular Titan and stare at a near empty coprse bay.

Aside from that loving the stats love the SMA size, the 4 turret DPS layout I would prefer an extra mid slot seeing as the Vanquisher already has the extra 8th low and a bigger increase to the raw Armor to make the Molok more of an incentive towards aquiring. So far everything else looks pretty dope.

Please explain how you "make" choices when they are limited yet CCP gives you a ship that can fit multiple variants yet not have the space to DO so. Not to mention the SMA is larger than a standard Avatar so why wouldn't the Fleet Hangar be as well when the modules it carries and uses are massive when unpackaged?

As if I already don't have a list in the Avatar I currently own. I am telling you that with the required additional modules for the Molok to carry it will NOT have sufficient space to do so. You also need a minimum of 5000 m3 of space for swapping so in actuality the m3 size is only really 95k m3.

Do you understand how Titans bounce? Does your small little brain even comprehend the logistical nightmare of combat refitting in a Faction Titan where it is probably likely any additional capitals will be either volleyed or bumped away? You also realize you STILL need the empty space to place said modules and swap into the fleet hangar. You also said you don't need both DD's???? So what if the enemy has different kinds of dreads? Would it not be beneficial to DD wait out the aggression timer, reswap to the other DD and use said resistance hole to alpha another dreadnought???? God are all of YOU this dumb when it comes to capital warfare? Of course you all are because you have zero clue what the hell you are talking about. Also it isn't entitlement its practicality and usability on the Battlefield. I suggest learning above a fifth grade reading level or hooked on phonics for you to comprehend basic fitting tactics.

It seems to me like you fail to comprehend that BECAUSE said Titan is bonused to use CAPITAL nos nuets dd's and generators it specifically needs to be able TO CARRY AND REFIT SAID MODULES. The cost of the Titan has little relevance in regards towards the modules it is bonused to USE. If the Titan was not bonused to use 2 racial doomsdays, three additional types of dds, capital nos and neuts as well as two phenomena generators we would not be having this discussion.

From what I can tell his argument is thusly:

Why bother using a faction titan, when that faction titan can only fit the modules of one race of bonuses in its hull?

Effectively, you are saying 'here are the bonuses' but then negating that because the titan can only use one type of bonus without docking up to refit.

In essense, the extra DD bonuses are pointless.

Of course, it's still an advantage because the enemy won't know which DD you have fit until you fire it.

That being said, it does seem a bit pointless to have a ship which can only use one bonus at a time without docking. For the price, you might as well buy two titans with the same racial DD's, as you could just do the same effective thing with them.

Not being able to even carry the basic refits due to their size is a massive hindrance. No one is saying shield refits or Quafe like your fellow idiots praddle on about. I am saying the BASIC refits to even USE the bonuses the Titan is made for!

Its not a cargo hold its a fleet hangar. Again because the ship is functional it needs space to carry the modules that MAKE it functional.

Hi Space Friends, please check the OP, some updates have been made!

Update (2017-03-28 1610)

• Added local repair bonus to Dagon
• Reduced Corpse bays for all

Fair.

A question to the thread as a whole; did we have this sort of, uh, "conversation" with the Serpentis capitals?

Not really, max in eve is 99.9% you can't go past that and even that is impossible to achieve.
Same with hardeners, you can't go past 99% resists no matter what you do.

Actually, funny thing, you can!

The caps are soft, not hard, except in very specific and hard-coded circumstances. If they roll over (generally due to rounding) you end up with, um, 'funny' results.

Like the DST that infamously managed to get over 100% resists, got shot, and took infinite damage and exploded!

Presumably without a similar hard limit on web speed reductions a Vindi-bonused grappler would result in a ship very briefly going infinity miles per hour, shooting out of web range, and slowing down somewhere around the next star system over...

That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. How do you take Y amount of energy from a target and turn it into Y times 150%?
You're creating energy from nothing.

150% increased capacitor gain from energy vampires while in triage mode

Fixed

Triage should turn this ship into a super vampire

Molok should have a custom DD that consumes corpses and power of the dd is dependent on corpses consumed

edit: also now your April fools corpse collector makes sense and should be introduced

Just like remote cap xfers already do on T2 logi cruisers. Free Energy is real in Eve Online.

Did somebody say isk faucet?